diff --git a/nodes/core/logic/17-split.html b/nodes/core/logic/17-split.html
index 7976bc4ec..c6ef1561d 100644
--- a/nodes/core/logic/17-split.html
+++ b/nodes/core/logic/17-split.html
@@ -1,4 +1,3 @@
-<!DOCTYPE html>
 <!--
   Copyright JS Foundation and other contributors, http://js.foundation
 
@@ -84,7 +83,7 @@
         </div>
         <div class="form-row">
             <label>to create </label>
-            <select id="node-input-build" style="width:200px;">
+            <select id="node-input-build" style="width:70%;">
                 <option id="node-input-build-string" value="string">a String</option>
                 <option value="array">an Array</option>
                 <option value="object">a key/value Object</option>
@@ -92,36 +91,40 @@
             </select>
         </div>
         <div class="form-row node-row-key">
-            <label style="vertical-align: top; margin-top: 7px;">using</label>
+            <label style="vertical-align:top; margin-top:7px;">using</label>
             <div style="display:inline-block">
-                <input type="text" id="node-input-key"  style="width:300px;">
-                <div style="margin-top: 7px;">as the property key</div>
+                <input type="text" id="node-input-key" style="width:252px;"> as the key
             </div>
         </div>
         <div class="form-row node-row-joiner">
             <label for="node-input-joiner">joined using</label>
-            <input type="text" id="node-input-joiner" style="width: 40px">
+            <input type="text" id="node-input-joiner" style="width:40px">
         </div>
-
-        <div class="form-row node-row-trigger">
-            <label style="width: auto;">Send the message:</label>
+        <div class="form-row node-row-trigger" id="trigger-row">
+            <label style="width:auto;">Send the message:</label>
             <ul>
-                <li style="height: 40px;">
-                    <label style="width: 280px;" for="node-input-count">After a fixed number of messages:</label> <input id="node-input-count" placeholder="count" type="text" style="width: 75px;">
+                <li>
+                    <label style="width:280px;" for="node-input-count">After a number of message parts</label> <input id="node-input-count" placeholder="count" type="text" style="width:75px;">
                 </li>
-                <li style="height: 40px;">
-                    <label style="width: 280px;" for="node-input-timeout">After a timeout following the first message:</label> <input id="node-input-timeout" placeholder="seconds" type="text" style="width: 75px;">
+                <li style="list-style-type:none;">
+                    <input type="checkbox" id="node-input-accumulate" style="display:inline-block; width:20px; list-style-type:none; margin-left:20px; vertical-align:top;">  and every subsequent message.
                 </li>
-                <li style="height: 40px;">
-                    <label style="width: auto; padding-top: 6px;">After a message with the <code>msg.complete</code> property set</label>
+                <li>
+                    <label style="width:280px;" for="node-input-timeout">After a timeout following the first message</label> <input id="node-input-timeout" placeholder="seconds" type="text" style="width:75px;">
+                </li>
+                <li>
+                    <label style="width:auto; padding-top:6px;">After a message with the <code>msg.complete</code> property set</label>
                 </li>
             </ul>
         </div>
     </div>
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-name">Name</label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-name" placeholder="Name">
+    </div>
     <div class="form-tips form-tips-auto hide">This mode assumes this node is either
     paired with a <i>split</i> node or the received messages will have a properly
     configured <code>msg.parts</code> property.</div>
-
 </script>
 
 <script type="text/x-red" data-help-name="join">
@@ -162,10 +165,12 @@
             name: {value:""},
             mode: {value:"auto"},
             build: { value:"string"},
-            property: { value: "payload", validate: RED.validators.typedInput("propertyType")},
+            property: { value:"payload", validate:RED.validators.typedInput("propertyType")},
             propertyType: { value:"msg"},
             key: {value:"topic"},
             joiner: { value:"\\n"},
+            accumulate: { value:"false" },
+            //topic: { value:""},
             timeout: {value:""},
             count: {value:""}
         },
@@ -187,7 +192,7 @@
 
             $("#node-input-build").change(function(e) {
                 var val = $(this).val();
-                $(".node-row-key").toggle(val==='object');
+                $(".node-row-key").toggle((val==='object')||(val==='accus'));
                 $(".node-row-joiner").toggle(val==='string');
                 $(".node-row-trigger").toggle(val!=='auto');
                 if (val === 'string') {
@@ -195,15 +200,18 @@
                 } else {
                     $("#node-input-property").typedInput('types',['msg', {value:"full",label:"complete message",hasValue:false}]);
                 }
-            })
+                // if (val === "accum") { $("#trigger-row").hide(); }
+                // else { $("#trigger-row").show(); }
+            });
 
             $("#node-input-property").typedInput({
                 typeField: $("#node-input-propertyType"),
-                types:['msg', {value:"full",label:"complete message",hasValue:false}]
-            })
+                types:['msg', {value:"full", label:"complete message", hasValue:false}]
+            });
+
             $("#node-input-key").typedInput({
-                types:['msg', {value:"merge",label:"",hasValue: false}]
-            })
+                types:['msg', {value:"merge", label:"", hasValue:false}]
+            });
 
             $("#node-input-build").change();
             $("#node-input-mode").change();
diff --git a/nodes/core/logic/17-split.js b/nodes/core/logic/17-split.js
index 23a1a7ec1..830e4f58e 100644
--- a/nodes/core/logic/17-split.js
+++ b/nodes/core/logic/17-split.js
@@ -20,7 +20,14 @@ module.exports = function(RED) {
     function SplitNode(n) {
         RED.nodes.createNode(this,n);
         this.splt = (n.splt || "\\n").replace(/\\n/,"\n").replace(/\\r/,"\r").replace(/\\t/,"\t").replace(/\\e/,"\e").replace(/\\f/,"\f").replace(/\\0/,"\0");
+        try {
+            var s = JSON.parse(n.splt.trim());
+            if (Array.isArray(s)) { this.splt = new Buffer.from(s); }
+        }
+        catch (e) {}
         var node = this;
+        node.c = 0;
+        node.buffer = new Buffer([]);
         this.on("input", function(msg) {
             if (msg.hasOwnProperty("payload")) {
                 var a = msg.payload;
@@ -38,6 +45,7 @@ module.exports = function(RED) {
                         msg.payload = a[i];
                         msg.parts.index = i;
                         msg.parts.count = a.length;
+                        //if (i === a.length-1) { msg.complete = true; }
                         node.send(RED.util.cloneMessage(msg));
                     }
                 }
@@ -57,7 +65,28 @@ module.exports = function(RED) {
                         }
                     }
                 }
-                // TODO not handling Buffers at present...
+                // Handle Buffer objects.... with overlaps to handle partial stream like
+                else if (Buffer.isBuffer(msg.payload)) {
+                    var len = node.buffer.length + msg.payload.length;
+                    var buff = Buffer.concat([node.buffer, msg.payload], len);
+                    var pos = buff.indexOf(node.splt);
+                    msg.parts.type = "buffer";
+                    msg.parts.ch = node.splt; // pass the split to other end for rejoin (maybe)
+                    while (pos !== -1) {
+                        msg.payload = buff.slice(0,pos);
+                        msg.parts.index = node.c;
+                        node.c += 1;
+                        buff = buff.slice(pos + node.splt.length);
+                        if (buff.length === 0) {
+                            msg.parts.count = node.c;
+                            node.c = 0; //reset the count if no remainder.
+                        }
+                        node.send(RED.util.cloneMessage(msg));
+                        pos = buff.indexOf(node.splt);
+                    }
+                    // save the remainder to use as start of next time round
+                    node.buffer = buff;
+                }
                 //else {  }   // otherwise drop the message.
             }
         });
@@ -75,18 +104,18 @@ module.exports = function(RED) {
         }
         this.key = n.key||"topic";
         this.timer = (this.mode === "auto") ? 0 : Number(n.timeout || 0)*1000;
-        this.timerr = n.timerr || "send";
         this.count = Number(n.count || 0);
         this.joiner = (n.joiner||"").replace(/\\n/g,"\n").replace(/\\r/g,"\r").replace(/\\t/g,"\t").replace(/\\e/g,"\e").replace(/\\f/g,"\f").replace(/\\0/g,"\0");
         this.build = n.build || "array";
+        this.accumulate = n.accumulate || "false";
+        //this.topic = n.topic;
         var node = this;
         var inflight = {};
 
         var completeSend = function(partId) {
             var group = inflight[partId];
             clearTimeout(group.timeout);
-            delete inflight[partId];
-
+            if ((node.accumulate !== true) || group.msg.hasOwnProperty("complete")) { delete inflight[partId]; }
             if (group.type === 'string') {
                 RED.util.setMessageProperty(group.msg,node.property,group.payload.join(group.joinChar));
             } else {
@@ -97,123 +126,143 @@ module.exports = function(RED) {
             } else {
                 delete group.msg.parts;
             }
+            delete group.msg.complete;
             node.send(group.msg);
         }
 
         this.on("input", function(msg) {
-try {
-            var property;
-            if (node.mode === 'auto' && (!msg.hasOwnProperty("parts")||!msg.parts.hasOwnProperty("id"))) {
-                node.warn("Message missing msg.parts property - cannot join in 'auto' mode")
-                return;
-            }
-            if (node.propertyType == "full") {
-                property = msg;
-            } else {
-                try {
-                    property = RED.util.getMessageProperty(msg,node.property);
-                } catch(err) {
-                    node.warn("Message property "+node.property+" not found");
+            try {
+                var property;
+                if (node.mode === 'auto' && (!msg.hasOwnProperty("parts")||!msg.parts.hasOwnProperty("id"))) {
+                    node.warn("Message missing msg.parts property - cannot join in 'auto' mode")
                     return;
                 }
-            }
-
-            var partId;
-            var payloadType;
-            var propertyKey;
-            var targetCount;
-            var joinChar;
-            var propertyIndex;
-            if (node.mode === "auto") {
-                // Use msg.parts to identify all of the group information
-                partId = msg.parts.id;
-                payloadType = msg.parts.type;
-                targetCount = msg.parts.count;
-                joinChar = msg.parts.ch;
-                propertyKey = msg.parts.key;
-                propertyIndex = msg.parts.index;
-            } else {
-                // Use the node configuration to identify all of the group information
-                partId = "_";
-                payloadType = node.build;
-                targetCount = node.count;
-                joinChar = node.joiner;
-                if (targetCount === 0 && msg.hasOwnProperty('parts')) {
-                    targetCount = msg.parts.count || 0;
+                if (node.propertyType == "full") {
+                    property = msg;
                 }
-                if (node.build === 'object') {
-                    propertyKey = RED.util.getMessageProperty(msg,node.key);
-                }
-            }
-            if (payloadType === 'object' && (propertyKey === null || propertyKey === undefined || propertyKey === "")) {
-                if (node.mode === "auto") {
-                    node.warn("Message missing 'msg.parts.key' property - cannot add to object");
-                } else {
-                    node.warn("Message missing key property 'msg."+node.key+"' '- cannot add to object")
-                }
-                return;
-            }
-            if (!inflight.hasOwnProperty(partId)) {
-                if (payloadType === 'object' || payloadType === 'merged') {
-                    inflight[partId] = {
-                        currentCount:0,
-                        payload:{},
-                        targetCount:targetCount,
-                        type:"object",
-                        msg:msg
-                    };
-                } else {
-                    inflight[partId] = {
-                        currentCount:0,
-                        payload:[],
-                        targetCount:targetCount,
-                        type:payloadType,
-                        joinChar: joinChar,
-                        msg:msg
-                    };
-                    if (payloadType === 'string') {
-                        inflight[partId].joinChar = joinChar;
+                else {
+                    try {
+                        property = RED.util.getMessageProperty(msg,node.property);
+                    } catch(err) {
+                        node.warn("Message property "+node.property+" not found");
+                        return;
                     }
                 }
-                if (node.timer > 0) {
-                    inflight[partId].timeout = setTimeout(function() {
-                        completeSend(partId)
-                    }, node.timer)
-                }
-            }
 
-            var group = inflight[partId];
-            if (payloadType === 'object') {
-                group.payload[propertyKey] = property;
-                group.currentCount = Object.keys(group.payload).length;
-            } else if (payloadType === 'merged') {
-                if (Array.isArray(property) || typeof property !== 'object') {
-                    node.warn("Cannot merge non-object types");
-                } else {
-                    for (propertyKey in property) {
-                        if (property.hasOwnProperty(propertyKey)) {
-                            group.payload[propertyKey] = property[propertyKey];
+                var partId;
+                var payloadType;
+                var propertyKey;
+                var targetCount;
+                var joinChar;
+                var propertyIndex;
+                if (node.mode === "auto") {
+                    // Use msg.parts to identify all of the group information
+                    partId = msg.parts.id;
+                    payloadType = msg.parts.type;
+                    targetCount = msg.parts.count;
+                    joinChar = msg.parts.ch;
+                    propertyKey = msg.parts.key;
+                    propertyIndex = msg.parts.index;
+                }
+                else {
+                    // Use the node configuration to identify all of the group information
+                    partId = "_";
+                    payloadType = node.build;
+                    targetCount = node.count;
+                    joinChar = node.joiner;
+                    if (targetCount === 0 && msg.hasOwnProperty('parts')) {
+                        targetCount = msg.parts.count || 0;
+                    }
+                    if (node.build === 'object') {
+                        propertyKey = RED.util.getMessageProperty(msg,node.key);
+                    }
+                }
+                if ((payloadType === 'object') && (propertyKey === null || propertyKey === undefined || propertyKey === "")) {
+                    if (node.mode === "auto") {
+                        node.warn("Message missing 'msg.parts.key' property - cannot add to object");
+                    } else {
+                        node.warn("Message missing key property 'msg."+node.key+"' - cannot add to object")
+                    }
+                    return;
+                }
+                if (!inflight.hasOwnProperty(partId)) {
+                    if (payloadType === 'object' || payloadType === 'merged') {
+                        inflight[partId] = {
+                            currentCount:0,
+                            payload:{},
+                            targetCount:targetCount,
+                            type:"object",
+                            msg:msg
+                        };
+                    }
+                    else if (node.accumulate === true) {
+                        if (msg.hasOwnProperty("reset")) { delete inflight[partId]; }
+                        inflight[partId] = inflight[partId] || {
+                            currentCount:0,
+                            payload:{},
+                            targetCount:targetCount,
+                            type:"object",
+                            msg:msg
                         }
                     }
+                    else {
+                        inflight[partId] = {
+                            currentCount:0,
+                            payload:[],
+                            targetCount:targetCount,
+                            type:payloadType,
+                            joinChar: joinChar,
+                            msg:msg
+                        };
+                        if (payloadType === 'string') {
+                            inflight[partId].joinChar = joinChar;
+                        }
+                    }
+                    if (node.timer > 0) {
+                        inflight[partId].timeout = setTimeout(function() {
+                            completeSend(partId)
+                        }, node.timer)
+                    }
+                }
+
+                var group = inflight[partId];
+                if (payloadType === 'object') {
+                    group.payload[propertyKey] = property;
+                    group.currentCount = Object.keys(group.payload).length;
+                    //msg.topic = node.topic || msg.topic;
+                }
+                else if (payloadType === 'merged') {
+                    if (Array.isArray(property) || typeof property !== 'object') {
+                        if (!msg.hasOwnProperty("complete")) {
+                            node.warn("Cannot merge non-object types");
+                        }
+                    }
+                    else {
+                        for (propertyKey in property) {
+                            if (property.hasOwnProperty(propertyKey)) {
+                                group.payload[propertyKey] = property[propertyKey];
+                            }
+                        }
+                        group.currentCount = Object.keys(group.payload).length;
+                        //group.currentCount++;
+                    }
+                }
+                else {
+                    if (!isNaN(propertyIndex)) {
+                        group.payload[propertyIndex] = property;
+                    } else {
+                        group.payload.push(property);
+                    }
                     group.currentCount++;
                 }
-            } else {
-                if (!isNaN(propertyIndex)) {
-                    group.payload[propertyIndex] = property;
-                } else {
-                    group.payload.push(property);
+                // TODO: currently reuse the last received - add option to pick first received
+                group.msg = msg;
+                if (group.currentCount >= group.targetCount || msg.hasOwnProperty('complete')) {
+                    completeSend(partId);
                 }
-                group.currentCount++;
+            } catch(err) {
+                console.log(err.stack);
             }
-            // TODO: currently reuse the last received - add option to pick first received
-            group.msg = msg;
-            if (group.currentCount === group.targetCount || msg.hasOwnProperty('complete')) {
-                delete msg.complete;
-                completeSend(partId);
-            }
-} catch(err) {
-    console.log(err.stack);
-}
         });
 
         this.on("close", function() {
diff --git a/test/nodes/core/logic/17-split_spec.js b/test/nodes/core/logic/17-split_spec.js
index 7d32145a8..b11d59add 100644
--- a/test/nodes/core/logic/17-split_spec.js
+++ b/test/nodes/core/logic/17-split_spec.js
@@ -139,7 +139,6 @@ describe('JOIN node', function() {
             joinNode1.should.have.property('name', 'joinNode');
             joinNode1.should.have.property('count', 0);
             joinNode1.should.have.property('timer', 0);
-            joinNode1.should.have.property('timerr', 'send');
             joinNode1.should.have.property('build', 'array');
             done();
         });
@@ -169,7 +168,7 @@ describe('JOIN node', function() {
     });
 
     it('should join things into an object after a count', function(done) {
-        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], count:5, build:"object",mode:"custom"},
+        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], count:5, build:"object", mode:"custom"},
                     {id:"n2", type:"helper"}];
         helper.load(joinNode, flow, function() {
             var n1 = helper.getNode("n1");
@@ -198,7 +197,7 @@ describe('JOIN node', function() {
     });
 
     it('should merge objects', function(done) {
-        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], count:6, build:"merged",mode:"custom"},
+        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], count:5, build:"merged", mode:"custom"},
                     {id:"n2", type:"helper"}];
         helper.load(joinNode, flow, function() {
             var n1 = helper.getNode("n1");
@@ -206,7 +205,7 @@ describe('JOIN node', function() {
             n2.on("input", function(msg) {
                 try {
                     msg.should.have.property("payload");
-                    msg.payload.should.have.property("a",6);
+                    msg.payload.should.have.property("a",1);
                     msg.payload.should.have.property("b",2);
                     msg.payload.should.have.property("c",3);
                     msg.payload.should.have.property("d",4);
@@ -215,12 +214,106 @@ describe('JOIN node', function() {
                 }
                 catch(e) { done(e)}
             });
+            n1.receive({payload:{a:9}, topic:"f"});
             n1.receive({payload:{a:1}, topic:"a"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{b:9}, topic:"b"});
             n1.receive({payload:{b:2}, topic:"b"});
             n1.receive({payload:{c:3}, topic:"c"});
             n1.receive({payload:{d:4}, topic:"d"});
             n1.receive({payload:{e:5}, topic:"e"});
-            n1.receive({payload:{a:6}, topic:"f"});
+        });
+    });
+
+    it('should accumulate a merged object', function(done) {
+        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], build:"merged",mode:"custom",accumulate:true},
+                    {id:"n2", type:"helper"}];
+        helper.load(joinNode, flow, function() {
+            var n1 = helper.getNode("n1");
+            var n2 = helper.getNode("n2");
+            var c = 0;
+            n2.on("input", function(msg) {
+                if (c === 5) {
+                    try {
+                        msg.should.have.property("payload");
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("a",3);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("b",2);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("c",1);
+                        done();
+                    }
+                    catch(e) { done(e) }
+                }
+                c += 1;
+            });
+            n1.receive({payload:{a:1}, topic:"a"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{b:2}, topic:"b"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{c:3}, topic:"c"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{a:3}, topic:"d"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{b:2}, topic:"e"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{c:1}, topic:"f"});
+        });
+    });
+
+    it('should be able to reset an accumulation', function(done) {
+        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], build:"merged",accumulate:true,mode:"custom"},
+                    {id:"n2", type:"helper"}];
+        helper.load(joinNode, flow, function() {
+            var n1 = helper.getNode("n1");
+            var n2 = helper.getNode("n2");
+            var c = 0;
+            n2.on("input", function(msg) {
+                if (c === 3) {
+                    try {
+                        msg.should.have.property("payload");
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("a",1);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("b",2);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("c",3);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("d",4);
+                    }
+                    catch(e) { done(e) }
+                }
+                if (c === 5) {
+                    try {
+                        msg.should.have.property("payload");
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("b",2);
+                        msg.payload.should.have.property("c",1);
+                        done();
+                    }
+                    catch(e) { done(e) }
+                }
+                c += 1;
+            });
+            n1.receive({payload:{a:1}, topic:"a"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{b:2}, topic:"b"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{c:3}, topic:"c"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{d:4}, topic:"d", complete:true});
+            n1.receive({payload:{b:2}, topic:"e"});
+            n1.receive({payload:{c:1}, topic:"f"});
+        });
+    });
+
+    it('should accumulate a key/value object', function(done) {
+        var flow = [{id:"n1", type:"join", wires:[["n2"]], build:"object", accumulate:true, mode:"custom", topic:"bar", key:"foo", count:4},
+                    {id:"n2", type:"helper"}];
+        helper.load(joinNode, flow, function() {
+            var n1 = helper.getNode("n1");
+            var n2 = helper.getNode("n2");
+            var c = 0;
+            n2.on("input", function(msg) {
+                try {
+                    //msg.should.have.property("topic","bar");
+                    msg.should.have.property("payload");
+                    msg.payload.should.have.property("a",1);
+                    msg.payload.should.have.property("b",2);
+                    msg.payload.should.have.property("c",3);
+                    msg.payload.should.have.property("d",4);
+                    done();
+                }
+                catch(e) { done(e) }
+            });
+            n1.receive({payload:1, foo:"a"});
+            n1.receive({payload:2, foo:"b"});
+            n1.receive({payload:3, foo:"c"});
+            n1.receive({payload:4, foo:"d"});
         });
     });
 
