diff --git a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/palette.js b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/palette.js
index f80ac98d0..617076645 100755
--- a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/palette.js
+++ b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/palette.js
@@ -140,9 +140,9 @@ RED.palette = (function() {
         labelElement.html(lines).attr('dir', RED.text.bidi.resolveBaseTextDir(lines));
 
         if (RED.view.vertical()) {
-            el.find(".red-ui-palette-port").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight/2-5)+"px", left: "55px"});
-            el.find(".red-ui-palette-port-output").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight-5)+"px", right: "55px"});
-            el.find(".red-ui-palette-port-input").css({top: "-5px"});
+            // el.find(".red-ui-palette-port").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight/2-5)+"px", left: "55px"});
+            // el.find(".red-ui-palette-port-output").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight-5)+"px", right: "55px"});
+            // el.find(".red-ui-palette-port-input").css({top: "-5px"});
         }else{
             el.find(".red-ui-palette-port").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight/2-5)+"px"});
             // el.find(".palette_port_output").css({top:(multiLineNodeHeight/2-5)+"px", right: "-6px", left: "auto"});
@@ -235,16 +235,19 @@ RED.palette = (function() {
 
             d.css("backgroundColor", RED.utils.getNodeColor(nt,def));
 
-            if (def.outputs > 0) {
-                var portOut = document.createElement("div");
-                portOut.className = "red-ui-palette-port red-ui-palette-port-output";
-                d.append(portOut);
-            }
+            if (!RED.view.vertical()) {
 
-            if (def.inputs > 0) {
-                var portIn = document.createElement("div");
-                portIn.className = "red-ui-palette-port red-ui-palette-port-input";
-                d.append(portIn);
+                if (def.outputs > 0) {
+                    var portOut = document.createElement("div");
+                    portOut.className = "red-ui-palette-port red-ui-palette-port-output";
+                    d.append(portOut);
+                }
+
+                if (def.inputs > 0) {
+                    var portIn = document.createElement("div");
+                    portIn.className = "red-ui-palette-port red-ui-palette-port-input";
+                    d.append(portIn);
+                }
             }
 
             createCategory(nodeCategory,rootCategory,category,(coreCategories.indexOf(rootCategory) !== -1)?"node-red":def.set.id);
diff --git a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/view.js b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/view.js
index d3c8d6cf1..d82316654 100644
--- a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/view.js
+++ b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/editor-client/src/js/ui/view.js
@@ -2868,7 +2868,7 @@ RED.view = (function() {
                             d.w = node_height;
                         } else {
                             if (vertical) {
-                                d.w = Math.max(node_width,20*(Math.ceil((calculateTextWidth(l, "red-ui-flow-node-label", 50)+(d._def.inputs>0?7:0))/20)),(d.outputs||0) * 15 );
+                                d.w = Math.max(node_width,20*(Math.ceil((calculateTextWidth(l, "red-ui-flow-node-label", 50)+(d._def.inputs>0?7:0))/20)),(d.outputs||0) * 16 );
                             }else{
                                 d.w = Math.max(node_width,20*(Math.ceil((calculateTextWidth(l, "red-ui-flow-node-label", 50)+(d._def.inputs>0?7:0))/20)) );
                             }
@@ -3125,7 +3125,7 @@ RED.view = (function() {
                                 if (hideLabel) {
                                     d.w = node_height
                                 } else {
-                                    d.w = Math.max(node_width,20*(Math.ceil((calculateTextWidth(l, "red-ui-flow-node-label", 50)+(d._def.inputs>0?7:0))/20)),(d.outputs||0) * 15 );
+                                    d.w = Math.max(node_width,20*(Math.ceil((calculateTextWidth(l, "red-ui-flow-node-label", 50)+(d._def.inputs>0?7:0))/20)),(d.outputs||0) * 16 );
                                 }
                                 d.h = node_height;
                             }else{
@@ -3180,7 +3180,14 @@ RED.view = (function() {
                                         .attr("r",5)
                                         .attr("class","red-ui-flow-port red-ui-flow-link-port")
                                 } else {
-                                    inputGroupPorts = inputGroup.append("rect").attr("class","red-ui-flow-port").attr("rx",3).attr("ry",3).attr("width",10).attr("height",10).attr("y",vertical?-3:0)
+                                    if (vertical) {
+                                        inputGroupPorts = inputGroup.append("path").attr("class","red-ui-flow-port").attr("d","M 0 4.5 v -6 q 0 -3 3 -3 h 4 q 3 0 3 3 v6");
+                                    } else {
+                                        inputGroupPorts = inputGroup.append("rect").attr("class","red-ui-flow-port").attr("rx",3).attr("ry",3).attr("width",10).attr("height",10);
+                                    }
+
+
+                                    //.attr("rx",3).attr("ry",3).attr("width",10).attr("height",10).attr("y",vertical?-4:0)
                                 }
                                 inputGroupPorts.on("mousedown",function(d){portMouseDown(d,PORT_TYPE_INPUT,0);})
                                     .on("touchstart",function(d){portMouseDown(d,PORT_TYPE_INPUT,0);})
@@ -3216,11 +3223,15 @@ RED.view = (function() {
                                     .attr("r",5)
                                     .attr("class","red-ui-flow-port red-ui-flow-link-port")
                             } else {
-                                output_group_ports = output_group.append("rect")
-                                    .attr("class","red-ui-flow-port")
-                                    .attr("rx",3).attr("ry",3)
-                                    .attr("width",10)
-                                    .attr("height",10)
+                                if (vertical) {
+                                    output_group_ports = output_group.append("path").attr("class","red-ui-flow-port").attr("d","M0 2.5 v 6 q 0 3 3 3 h 4 q 3 0 3 -3 v-6");
+                                } else {
+                                    output_group_ports = output_group.append("rect")
+                                        .attr("class","red-ui-flow-port")
+                                        .attr("rx",3).attr("ry",3)
+                                        .attr("width",10)
+                                        .attr("height",10)
+                                }
                             }
 
                             output_group_ports.on("mousedown",(function(){var node = d; return function(d,i){portMouseDown(node,PORT_TYPE_OUTPUT,i);}})() )