diff --git a/nodes/io/21-httpin.html b/nodes/io/21-httpin.html
index 3e438f6ec..6bf97615c 100644
--- a/nodes/io/21-httpin.html
+++ b/nodes/io/21-httpin.html
@@ -76,7 +76,7 @@
         outputs:1,
         icon: "white-globe.png",
         label: function() {
-            return this.name||"["+this.method+"] "+this.url;
+            return this.name||(this.url?("["+this.method+"] "+this.url):"http");
         },
         labelStyle: function() {
             return this.name?"node_label_italic":"";
@@ -85,14 +85,19 @@
 </script>
 
 <script type="text/x-red" data-template-name="http response">
-    <div class="form-tips">The messages sent to this node must originate from an HTTP input node</div>
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-name"><i class="icon-tag"></i> Name</label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-name" placeholder="Name">
+    </div>
+    <div class="form-tips">The messages sent to this node <b>must</b> originate from an <i>http input</i> node</div>
 </script>
 
 <script type="text/x-red" data-help-name="http response">
-	<p>Provides an response node for http requests received from an http input node.</p>
+	<p>Sends responses back to http requests received from an HTTP Input node.</p>
+	<p>The response can be customised using the following message properties:</p>
 	<ul>
 	    <li><code>payload</code> is sent as the body of the reponse</li>
-	    <li><code>rc</code>, if set, is used as the response code (default: 200)</li>
+	    <li><code>statusCode</code>, if set, is used as the response status code (default: 200)</li>
 	    <li><code>headers</code>, if set, should be an object containing field/value
 	    pairs to be added as response headers.</li>
 	</ul>
@@ -102,17 +107,89 @@
     RED.nodes.registerType('http response',{
         category: 'output',
         color:"rgb(231, 231, 174)",
-        defaults: {},
+        defaults: {
+            name: {value:""}
+        },
         inputs:1,
         outputs:0,
         align: "right",
         icon: "white-globe.png",
         label: function() {
-            return "http"
+            return this.name||"http";
         },
         labelStyle: function() {
-            return "";
+            return this.name?"node_label_italic":"";
         }
     });
 </script>
 
+
+
+
+<script type="text/x-red" data-template-name="http request">
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-method"><i class="icon-tasks"></i> Method</label>
+        <select type="text" id="node-input-method" style="width: 150px;">
+        <option value="GET">GET</option>
+        <option value="POST">POST</option>
+        <option value="PUT">PUT</option>
+        <option value="DELETE">DELETE</option>
+        </select>
+    </div>
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-url"><i class="icon-tasks"></i> URL</label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-url" placeholder="http://">
+    </div>
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-name"><i class="icon-tag"></i> Name</label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-name" placeholder="Name">
+    </div>
+</script>
+
+<script type="text/x-red" data-help-name="http request">
+	<p>Provides a node for making http requests.</p>
+	<p>The URL and HTTP method can be configured in the node, but also
+	   overridden by the incoming message:
+	<ul>
+	    <li><code>url</code>, if set, is used as the url of the request</li>
+	    <li><code>method</code>, if set, is used as the HTTP method of the request. Must be one of <code>GET</code>, <code>PUT</code>, <code>POST</code> or <code>DELETE</code> (default: GET)</li>
+	    <li><code>headers</code>, if set, should be an object containing field/value
+	    pairs to be added as request headers</li>
+	    <li><code>payload</code> is sent as the body of the request</li>
+	</ul>
+	
+	The output message contains the following properties:
+	<ul>
+	    <li><code>payload</code> is the body of the response</li>
+	    <li><code>statusCode</code> is the status code of the response, or the error code if the request could not be completed</li>
+	    <li><code>headers</code> is an object containing the response headers</li>
+	</ul>
+</script>
+
+<script type="text/javascript">
+    RED.nodes.registerType('http request',{
+        category: 'function',
+        color:"rgb(231, 231, 174)",
+        defaults: {
+            name: {value:""},
+            method:{value:"GET"},
+            url:{value:""}
+        },
+        inputs:1,
+        outputs:1,
+        align: "right",
+        icon: "white-globe.png",
+        label: function() {
+            return this.name||"http request";
+        },
+        labelStyle: function() {
+            return this.name?"node_label_italic":"";
+        }
+    });
+</script>
+
+
+
+
+
+
diff --git a/nodes/io/21-httpin.js b/nodes/io/21-httpin.js
index 95a57b5cd..c3e3a027b 100644
--- a/nodes/io/21-httpin.js
+++ b/nodes/io/21-httpin.js
@@ -16,6 +16,10 @@
 
 var RED = require("../../red/red");
 var util = require("util");
+var http = require("http");
+var https = require("https");
+var urllib = require("url");
+var bodyParser = require("express").bodyParser();
 
 function HTTPIn(n) {
 	RED.nodes.createNode(this,n);
@@ -24,14 +28,15 @@ function HTTPIn(n) {
 
 	var node = this;
 	this.callback = function(req,res) {
+	    console.log(arguments.length);
 		node.send({req:req,res:res});
 	}
 	if (this.method == "get") {
 		RED.app.get(this.url,this.callback);
 	} else if (this.method == "post") {
-		RED.app.post(this.url,this.callback);
+		RED.app.post(this.url,bodyParser,this.callback);
 	} else if (this.method == "put") {
-		RED.app.put(this.url,this.callback);
+		RED.app.put(this.url,bodyParser,this.callback);
 	} else if (this.method == "delete") {
 		RED.app.delete(this.url,this.callback);
 	}
@@ -41,7 +46,7 @@ function HTTPIn(n) {
 	        for (var i in routes) {
 	            if (routes[i].path == this.url) {
 	                routes.splice(i,1);
-	                break;
+	                //break;
 	            }
 	        }
 	});
@@ -58,10 +63,59 @@ function HTTPOut(n) {
 	            if (msg.headers) {
 	                res.set(msg.headers);
 	            }
-	            var rc = msg.rc || 200;
-	            msg.res.send(rc,msg.payload);
+	            var statusCode = msg.statusCode || 200;
+	            msg.res.send(statusCode,msg.payload);
 	        }
 	});
 }
 
 RED.nodes.registerType("http response",HTTPOut);
+
+function HTTPRequest(n) {
+	RED.nodes.createNode(this,n);
+	var url = n.url;
+	var method = n.method || "GET";
+	var httplib = (/^https/.test(url))?https:http;
+	var node = this;
+	this.on("input",function(msg) {
+	        
+	        var opts = urllib.parse(msg.url||url);
+	        opts.method = msg.method||method;
+	        if (msg.headers) {
+	            opts.header = headers;
+	        }
+	        var req = httplib.request(opts,function(res) {
+	                res.setEncoding('utf8');
+	                var message = {
+	                    statusCode: res.statusCode,
+	                    headers: res.headers,
+	                    payload: ""
+	                };
+	                res.on('data',function(chunk) {
+	                        message.payload += chunk;
+	                });
+	                res.on('end',function() {
+	                        node.send(message);
+	                });
+	        });
+	        req.on('error',function(err) {
+	                msg.payload = err.toString();
+	                msg.statusCode = err.code;
+	                node.send(msg);
+	        });
+	        if (msg.payload) {
+	            if (typeof msg.payload === "string" || Buffer.isBuffer(msg.payload)) { 
+                    req.write(msg.payload);
+                } else if (typeof msg.payload == "number") {
+                    req.write(msg.payload+"");
+                } else {
+                    req.write(JSON.stringify(msg.payload));
+                }
+	        }
+	        req.end();
+	        
+	        
+	});
+}
+
+RED.nodes.registerType("http request",HTTPRequest);
diff --git a/nodes/io/90-httpget.html b/nodes/io/90-httpget.html
index 65be8202f..643c35c31 100644
--- a/nodes/io/90-httpget.html
+++ b/nodes/io/90-httpget.html
@@ -15,6 +15,8 @@
 -->
 
 <script type="text/x-red" data-template-name="httpget">
+    <div class="form-tips"><b>Deprecated</b>: please use the <i>http request</i> node.</div>
+    <br>
     <div class="form-row">
         <label for="node-input-baseurl"><i class="icon-tasks"></i> Base URL</label>
         <input type="text" id="node-input-baseurl" placeholder="http(s)://url">