diff --git a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.html b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.html
index 7cce956bb..5889d6aa1 100644
--- a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.html
+++ b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.html
@@ -15,6 +15,16 @@
 -->
 
 <script type="text/html" data-template-name="http request">
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-name"><i class="fa fa-tag"></i> <span data-i18n="common.label.name"></span></label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-name" data-i18n="[placeholder]common.label.name">
+    </div>
+
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-property"><i class="fa fa-sign-in"></i> <span data-i18n="common.label.propertyIn"></span></label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-property" style="width:70%;"/>
+    </div>
+
     <div class="form-row">
         <label for="node-input-method"><i class="fa fa-tasks"></i> <span data-i18n="httpin.label.method"></span></label>
         <select type="text" id="node-input-method" style="width:70%;">
@@ -98,7 +108,7 @@
 
 
     <div class="form-row">
-        <label for="node-input-ret"><i class="fa fa-arrow-left"></i> <span data-i18n="httpin.label.return"></span></label>
+        <label for="node-input-ret"><i class="fa fa-sign-out"></i> <span data-i18n="httpin.label.return"></span></label>
         <select type="text" id="node-input-ret" style="width:70%;">
         <option value="txt" data-i18n="httpin.utf8"></option>
         <option value="bin" data-i18n="httpin.binary"></option>
@@ -107,7 +117,10 @@
     </div>
 
     <div class="form-row form-tips" id="tip-json" hidden><span data-i18n="httpin.tip.req"></span></div>
-
+    <div class="form-row">
+        <label for="node-input-propertyOut"><i class="fa fa-sign-out"></i> <span data-i18n="common.label.propertyOut"></span></label>
+        <input type="text" id="node-input-propertyOut" style="width:70%;"/>
+    </div>
     <div class="form-row" style="margin-bottom:0;">
         <label><i class="fa fa-list"></i> <span data-i18n="httpin.label.headers"></span></label>
     </div>
@@ -115,10 +128,7 @@
         <ol id="node-input-headers-container"></ol>
     </div>
 
-    <div class="form-row">
-        <label for="node-input-name"><i class="fa fa-tag"></i> <span data-i18n="common.label.name"></span></label>
-        <input type="text" id="node-input-name" data-i18n="[placeholder]common.label.name">
-    </div>
+
 </script>
 
 <script type="text/javascript">
@@ -235,7 +245,13 @@
             insecureHTTPParser: {value: false},
             authType: {value: ""},
             senderr: {value: false},
-            headers: { value: [] }
+            headers: { value: [] },
+            property: {value:"payload",required:true,
+                       validate: RED.validators.typedInput({ type: 'msg', allowUndefined: true }),
+                       label:RED._("node-red:common.label.propertyIn")},
+            propertyOut: {value:"payload",required:true,
+                       validate: RED.validators.typedInput({ type: 'msg', allowUndefined: true}),
+                       label:RED._("node-red:common.label.propertyOut")}
         },
         credentials: {
             user: {type:"text"},
@@ -426,6 +442,15 @@
                     headerList.editableList('addItem', node.headers[index]);
                 }
             }
+            if (this.property === undefined) {
+                $("#node-input-property").val("payload");
+            }
+            $("#node-input-property").typedInput({default:'msg',types:['msg']});
+            if (this.propertyOut === undefined) {
+                $("#node-input-propertyOut").val("payload");
+            }
+            $("#node-input-propertyOut").typedInput({default:'msg',types:['msg']});
+
         },
         oneditsave: function() {
             if (!$("#node-input-usetls").is(':checked')) {
diff --git a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.js b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.js
index 62b4d396b..527eddd1a 100644
--- a/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.js
+++ b/packages/node_modules/@node-red/nodes/core/network/21-httprequest.js
@@ -68,6 +68,8 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
         RED.nodes.createNode(this,n);
         checkNodeAgentPatch();
         const node = this;
+        node.property = n.property||"payload";
+        node.propertyOut = n.propertyOut||node.property;
         const nodeUrl = n.url;
         const isTemplatedUrl = (nodeUrl||"").indexOf("{{") != -1;
         const nodeMethod = n.method || "GET";
@@ -431,14 +433,15 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
                 }
             }
             var payload = null;
+            const value = RED.util.getMessageProperty(msg, node.property)
 
 
-            if (method !== 'GET' && method !== 'HEAD' && typeof msg.payload !== "undefined") {
-                if (opts.headers['content-type'] == 'multipart/form-data' && typeof msg.payload === "object") {
+            if (method !== 'GET' && method !== 'HEAD' && typeof value !== "undefined") {
+                if (opts.headers['content-type'] == 'multipart/form-data' && typeof value === "object") {
                     let formData = new FormData();
-                    for (var opt in msg.payload) {
-                        if (msg.payload.hasOwnProperty(opt)) {
-                            var val = msg.payload[opt];
+                    for (var opt in value) {
+                        if (value.hasOwnProperty(opt)) {
+                            var val = value[opt];
                             if (val !== undefined && val !== null) {
                                 if (typeof val === 'string' || Buffer.isBuffer(val)) {
                                     formData.append(opt, val);
@@ -455,15 +458,15 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
                     delete opts.headers['content-type'];
                     opts.body = formData;
                 } else {
-                    if (typeof msg.payload === "string" || Buffer.isBuffer(msg.payload)) {
-                        payload = msg.payload;
-                    } else if (typeof msg.payload == "number") {
-                        payload = msg.payload+"";
+                    if (typeof value === "string" || Buffer.isBuffer(value)) {
+                        payload = value;
+                    } else if (typeof value == "number") {
+                        payload = value + "";
                     } else {
                         if (opts.headers['content-type'] == 'application/x-www-form-urlencoded') {
-                            payload = querystring.stringify(msg.payload);
+                            payload = querystring.stringify(value);
                         } else {
-                            payload = JSON.stringify(msg.payload);
+                            payload = JSON.stringify(value);
                             if (opts.headers['content-type'] == null) {
                                 opts.headers[ctSet] = "application/json";
                             }
@@ -481,13 +484,13 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
             }
 
 
-            if (method == 'GET' && typeof msg.payload !== "undefined" && paytoqs) {
-                if (typeof msg.payload === "object") {
+            if (method == 'GET' && typeof value !== "undefined" && paytoqs) {
+                if (typeof value === "object") {
                     try {
                         if (url.indexOf("?") !== -1) {
-                            url += (url.endsWith("?")?"":"&") + querystring.stringify(msg.payload);
+                            url += (url.endsWith("?")?"":"&") + querystring.stringify(value);
                         } else {
-                            url += "?" + querystring.stringify(msg.payload);
+                            url += "?" + querystring.stringify(value);
                         }
                     } catch(err) {
 
@@ -501,14 +504,14 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
                     nodeDone();
                     return;
                 }
-            } else if ( method == "GET" && typeof msg.payload !== "undefined" && paytobody) {
+            } else if ( method == "GET" && typeof value !== "undefined" && paytobody) {
                 opts.allowGetBody = true;
-                if (typeof msg.payload === "object") {
-                    opts.body = JSON.stringify(msg.payload);
-                } else if (typeof msg.payload == "number") {
-                    opts.body = msg.payload+"";
-                } else if (typeof msg.payload === "string" || Buffer.isBuffer(msg.payload)) {
-                    opts.body = msg.payload;
+                if (typeof value === "object") {
+                    opts.body = JSON.stringify(value);
+                } else if (typeof value == "number") {
+                    opts.body = value + "";
+                } else if (typeof value === "string" || Buffer.isBuffer(value)) {
+                    opts.body = value;
                 }
             }
 
@@ -597,7 +600,7 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
                 msg.statusCode = res.statusCode;
                 msg.headers = res.headers;
                 msg.responseUrl = res.url;
-                msg.payload = res.body;
+                let result = res.body;
                 msg.redirectList = redirectList;
                 msg.retry = 0;
 
@@ -622,14 +625,15 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
 
                 // Convert the payload to the required return type
                 if (node.ret !== "bin") {
-                    msg.payload = msg.payload.toString('utf8'); // txt
+                    result = result.toString('utf8'); // txt
 
                     if (node.ret === "obj") {
-                        if (msg.statusCode == 204){msg.payload= "{}"};
-                        try { msg.payload = JSON.parse(msg.payload); } // obj
+                        if (msg.statusCode == 204){result= "{}"};
+                        try { result = JSON.parse(result); } // obj
                         catch(e) { node.warn(RED._("httpin.errors.json-error")); }
                     }
                 }
+                RED.util.setMessageProperty(msg, node.propertyOut, result)
                 node.status({});
                 nodeSend(msg);
                 nodeDone();
@@ -647,7 +651,8 @@ in your Node-RED user directory (${RED.settings.userDir}).
                     node.error(err,msg);
                     node.status({fill:"red", shape:"ring", text:err.code});
                 }
-                msg.payload = err.toString() + " : " + url;
+                result = err.toString() + " : " + url;
+                RED.util.setMessageProperty(msg, node.propertyOut, result)
                 msg.statusCode = err.code || (err.response?err.response.statusCode:undefined);
                 if (node.metric() && timingLog) {
                     emitTimingMetricLog(err.timings, msg);